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John Carpenter and
Frances Ellen “Fanny” Garver
John Carpenter (c. 1805–c. 1836/1837) m. Frances Ellen “Fanny”
Garver (4 Dec 1809-23 Feb 1899)
Elizabeth
Jane Carpenter (9 Sep 1830-3 Apr 1892) m. Isaac Thompson (7 May 1825-7 Jul
1859)
Catherine Carpenter (16 Sep 1832 - 11 Oct 1913) m. James Randall
(19 May 1832-16 Feb 1899)
Daniel Carpenter (6 May 1834-5 May 1912) m. Emily Cook
Edmonson (1 Jan 1835-13 May 1908)
John Wesley
Carpenter (1856-1925) m. Roxanna Ayres (1857-1929)
Nathan Summers Carpenter (1879-1953)
m. Nancy Belle Calkins (1884-1911)
Nathan
Summers Carpenter (1879-1953) m. Mina Alice Emerson (1893-1983)
John “Jack” Carpenter (14 Feb 1836-14 Apr 1924) m. Ellen S.
Rogers (c. 1841-10 May 1916)
Go to list of five generations of descendants of John
Carpenter and Fanny Garver
Go to ancestors list for Frances Ellen “Fanny” Garver
(1809-1899)
View
pdf of documents and pictures for Frances Ellen “Fanny” (Garver) (Carpenter)
Adams (1809-1899)
View pdf file of documents and pictures for Daniel Carpenter
(6 May 1834-5 May 1912)
View pdf file of documents and pictures for John Wesley
Carpenter (14 May 1856-22 May 1925)
View
pdf file of journal by Mina Alice (Emerson) Carpenter, 1917-1919 and 1933-1935
Go to chart of nine generations of combined families.
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What We Know (revised 6 September 2020)
Family records (mostly compiled by Shirley Klann)
indicate John Carpenter married Frances Ellen “Fanny” Garver from Mason County,
KY. They reportedly lived in Greene Township, Brown County, OH, and had four
children born in Highland County, OH. John died after their fourth child was
born in 1836.
Fanny remarried Ephraim N. Adams on 22 March 1838. On 10 March
1840, Ephraim was named guardian of Fanny’s four Carpenter children and trustee
over $400 from John Carpenter’s estate. Fanny, Ephraim, and children moved
west, possibly spending time in Indiana or Illinois, and eventually settling in
Kalona, Washington Co., IA. Fanny and Ephraim had six children of their
own. Much is known about the descendants of Fanny Garver/Carpenter/Adams after
the move to Iowa.
Records posted on MyHeritage.com on 12 December 2017 by James
Benedict shows an extensive family tree for Fanny Garver, dating back to Ulrich
Gerber (1433-1464) in Switzerland, who would be the 15th great
grandfather of this researcher. The detail of those records encourages belief
in their credibility. However, this researcher had not seen proof of those
records. That family line is published on this website for the readers’
convenience (see the link given above). James Benedict’s record can be found at
https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-140696191-34-1287/frances-ellen-garver-in-myheritage-family-trees)
Little is known about John Carpenter. There is an 1840 Guardian
document that connects him to his four children and to Ephraim Adams, his
widow’s new husband. That document is discussed below. Several researchers of
this line have attempted to learn more about our John. Also below are
explanations of several theories that provide possible paths for genealogical
researchers to follow.
The Guardianship Bond Click here view Guardianship Bond as a pdf file.
The document for Ephraim Adams’s guardianship of the Carpenter
children has been misread for decades. The tenth line on that document lists
three of the four children (Jane, Catherine, and Daniel). The eleventh line
gives the fourth child, John, and reads “& John Carpenter minor heirs and
legal representative of xxxx Carpenter.” For decades,
genealogists of this Carpenter line interpreted the “xxxx”
to be “Isaac.” However, on 5 September 2020, an experienced handwriting analyst
disagreed, insisting the “xxxx” is “John,” not
“Isaac.” It certainly makes sense that a
guardianship document would also deal with the management of money from their
father John’s estate rather than combining a guardianship document with gift
from some Isaac Carpenter, who has long been assumed to be John’s
father. Please examine the document and
decide for yourself. Compare “John Carpenter” at the beginning of line eleven
to “xxxx Carpenter” at the end of that line.
On the back side of that guardianship document (third page of
the above pdf file) is a notation containing eight short lines. The first three
lines, “Bond -- Carpenter Heirs -- Guardianship Bond,” are in one person’s handwriting
that matches the handwriting on the main document. The last five lines, “Isaac
Carpenter – Estate – Ephraim Adams – Gdn –
1840” are in a distinctly different person’s handwriting. Those lines could
have been written at the same time as the first three lines, indicating that
there is indeed an Isaac Carpenter who left money, probably to John Carpenter
since the guardianship document specifies that John is the deceased.
Conversely, those lines could have been added later by someone who misread
“John Carpenter” on the main document and interpreted it as “Isaac Carpenter.”
Theory One (proven false by DNA tests and documentary evidence)
Many family trees on the internet indicate a connection between a
John Carpenter, who matches our John Carpenter’s approximate birth year and
locations, who married Frances Ellen Garver, and had a son Daniel, with a
father, Isaac Carpenter. In turn, that Isaac is reported to be son of Gilbert
Carpenter (1754-1820) who is connected to a well-documented line of Carpenters
that descends from William Carpenter (c.1610-1685), who immigrated to
Providence, Rhode Island Colony in 1635.
HOWEVER, this researcher has thoroughly explored until arriving
at three reasons to abandon it:
First, this researcher’s DNA test shows a relationship to
William Carpenter (c.1605-1658/9) of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, NOT to William
Carpenter of Providence, Rhode Island Colony. See Carpenter Cousins website to
learn about those distinctly different lines. (https://www.carpentercousins.com/
Second, this researcher is convinced that the $400 entrusted to
Ephraim Adams to care for John’s four children came from their father John
Carpenter’s estate and not from any Isaac Carpenter, with notation about an
Isaac Carpenter being added later. (See the discussion above about the
guardianship document.)
Third, the Isaac Carpenter connected to Theory One reportedly died
in 1812. He did have a son John A.
Carpenter, who is named in Isaac’s will, along with Isaac’s daughter Susan. It
is unlikely that this Isaac would have given the children of our John $400 in
1840, 28 years after his presumed death, which is the supposed connection
between our John and any Isaac. In 1859, Isaac’s wife Mary’s will names their daughter Susan and Susan’s four children as
heirs. There is no mention in Mary’s will of son John A. or of any children of
John A. It is unlikely that Mary would have given $400 in deceased husband
Isaac’s name in 1840 to four children of John Carpenter and then ignored them
19 years later in her own will. (Isaac’s and Mary’s wills are available from
the Archives of Westchester County, New York).
The Isaac in this discussion is person # 762 on https://carpentercousins.com/wc-662-desc/aqwg31.htm#5062 . Those records match closely to Daniel Hoogland Carpenter’s
History and Genealogy of the Carpenter Family in America: From the Settlement
of Providence, R.I., 1637-1901.
Go to list of ancestors of Isaac Carpenter (c. 1780 – aft.
1812) of the line of
William Carpenter (c. 1610-1685) of Providence, R.I. This is posted here only
for reference for the disproven theory that our John is related to the William
of Providence line of Carpenters.
Theory Two
Paul Thomas Mowrey is co-author with
Terry Lee Carpenter of Update of the Genealogy of the New England
Carpenter Family of English Origin: The Virginia/West Virginia Branch: Some
Descendants of Joseph Carpenter, Pioneer of the Jackson River, privately
published in 1997. In private correspondence with this researcher, Mr. Mowrey expressed the opinion that our Isaac Carpenter might
have been one of the unaccounted sons of Solomon "The Outlaw"
Carpenter of Braxton/Webster Counties of what is now West Virginia. Mr. Mowrey expressed that most of Solomon's sons probably went
west and south into Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee.
Solomon was born c. 1745-1750 and descends from William
Carpenter (c.1605-1658/9) of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony. This is the Carpenter
line to which this researcher is connected, according to DNA tests. Supposedly,
this Solomon's father was also named Solomon; his grandfather was Joseph,
great-grandfather was Nathanial, gg-grandfather was Joseph, and ggg-grandfather was William.
There are many tales about Solomon. One has him, in 1756 at age
10, among five Carpenter children kidnapped by Indians in a raid on a Jackson
River settlement and freed by the military in 1764. Another story has him
deserting from the Revolutionary Army when the army reneged on a promise that
he would be General George Washington's bodyguard at higher pay than most
soldiers. Well-armed and hiding out in the mountains with as many as fifty
others, they were recruited as an honorable fighting unit with full amnesty,
after the government gave up trying to arrest them for desertion. There is also
the story that Solomon made his livelihood on home-brew whiskey, which explains
why there would not be many official records about him or his sons.
Much research is needed to prove Mr. Mowrey's
theory, but it certainly is viable. Solomon's death would have come after the
end of the Revolutionary War. Mr. Mowrey documents
Solomon's son Jesse, who was born circa 1785 and died circa 1850 after
fathering at least five children between circa 1815 and circa 1836. If the tale
of Solomon's capture by Indians is true and Solomon was born in 1746, he would
have been nearly forty when Jesse was born. Carpenter family tradition would
have predicted more than one child for Solomon before the age of forty. Hence,
Jesse or one of his missing siblings could be the grandfather or our John as
late as circa 1810 in order for allow for John's first
child's birth in 1830.
Research needs to be conducted using original documents in West Virginia
and Ohio. This connection will be difficult to prove as there are two missing
generations between this Solomon and our John.
Theory Three (refuted by DNA evidence and not supported by any known
documented evidence)
This theory has been suggested by other researchers but is not
likely viable due to contrary DNA evidence discussed above. However, it is
discussed here as point of interest. There were three arguments that made this
an interesting consideration.
First, since Fanny Garver’s family surname was Anglicized from
Gerber, it is possible John Carpenter’s family surname was also Anglicized from
Zimmerman or Timmerman. Back in the 1990s there were three items that make this
a plausible research avenue. First, there are well-documented cases of many Zimmermans who changed their names to Carpenter as they
immigrated from Germany. Without any other records of origin, it would make
sense that John and Fanny might have connected if they were both of fairly
recent German or Swiss origin.
Second, this researcher's father, Philip Beryle Carpenter,
recalls his father, Nathan Summers Carpenter, often mentioning that
"Zimmerman is German for Carpenter," and having other possible
connections to “the old country.” That could have been either a useless bit of
trivia or a connection to his past. That thought was encouraged by a document, thought
to be written in Low German and a connection to a German ancestry, that was
found in Nathan Summers Carpenter’s records upon his death. It saved by his
wife, Alice Mina Carpenter, who finally gave it to her daughter Aleta for safe
keeping. Aletha passed in on to her sister Roxanna, who gave it to me, along
with three notebooks of Carpenter records.
Upon translation in 1999, the document turns out to be written
in Dutch. It is a certificate of a cow-pow vaccination on May 3, 1898 for a
9-year-old boy named Johan Magnus Klauson who was
born in Krania and is the son of Jens, a worker. It
explains about the red circle that should appear within 7-9 days around the
point of injection to indicate that the inoculation worked. It also says that
cow pox was injected to protect from children pox.
The only location named Krania that is
revealed by a Google search, is in Greece. Krania is
also the plural of kranium, which is Norwegian for
skull. It is a mystery why Nathan Summers Carpenter had in his papers an 1898 Dutch
cow pox vaccination certificate for a Greek boy. More importantly, it does not
indicate any connection to German ancestry of this line of Carpenters.
Third, the choice by Fanny and her second husband, Ephraim
Adams, to settle in Kalona, IA, could be coincidence or could be deliberate in order to associate with a community of people of common
heritage. However, the family tree of Fanny Garver indicates her ancestor,
Johan Christian Gerber immigrated to the colonies in 1738. Being of the fourth
generation born in the United States, the notion of clustering with people with
similar heritage is less likely. It is more likely that they moved to Kalona to
be close to other Garver and Adams family who had already moved there.
Therefore, this researcher has abandoned this theory for two
reasons. First and foremost, DNA tests have indicated this researcher is
descended directly from William Carpenter who immigrated to Providence, Rhode
Island in 1635 and not from German or Swiss ancestry. Second, this researcher
has not seen any documentary evidence that would encourage further
investigation.
Theory Four
Perhaps we have all overlooked some other connection to a
different lineage for our John Carpenter.
For example, in the William Carpenter of Rehoboth line, to which
this researcher is connected by DNA evidence, there are at least 19 John
Carpenters about whom very little is known except for a birth date between 1774
and 1814. That date range would have meant that John would have been between 16
and 50 when his first child Elizabeth was born in 1830, making it possible for
any one of those Johns to be our John. There are dozens of other Johns in that
date range who are listed with a middle initial or middle name.
On the carpentercousins.com website, those 19 Johns are (listed in the
probable order of investigation, based primarily on birth year):
·
#8032,
about 1802, in VA or OH(?); [Investigation began in Sep 2020, as this is the only John in
this list for whom OH is mentioned. See sub-theory below.]
·
#5898,
born c. 1798 in Fitchburg, Worchester, MA; [Investigation began 21 Sep 2020, based on a
tip from John R. Carpenter. See sub-theory below.]
·
#4086,
c. 1803/1804, NY; [Investigation began 22
Sep 2020. See sub-theory below.]
·
#8174,
c. 1804, Milton, Chittenden, NY;
·
#12141,
c. 1805, Providence, Providence, RI;
·
#3748,
9 Feb 1812, Elizabeth, Union, NJ, married and moved to Marengo, OH;
·
#4867,
Feb 1799, Guilford, Windham, VT, missing since War of 1812;
·
#5898,
c. 1798, Fitchburg, Worchester, MA;
·
#7998,
c. 1798, siblings were born in RI;
·
#15902,
1796, Jamaica, Long Island, NY;
·
#8145,
14 July 1795, Waterboro, York, ME;
·
#7532,
21 Dec 1793, Saratoga, Monroe, NY;
·
#8116,
c. 1793, siblings were born in ME;
·
#4433,
5 May 1790, Cumberland, Providence, RI;
·
#8120,
c. 1790, North Waterboro, York, ME;
·
#2031,
c. 1774, Providence, RI;
·
#1648,
c. 1785, Dutchess Co, NY;
·
#3748,
9 Feb 1812, Elizabeth, Union, NJ, married/moved to Marengo, OH; [unlikely match]
·
#3323,
about 1782, NYC, probably a ship carpenter in 1811 NY Directory; [unlikely match]
In that year range, there are also many other John Carpenters
who are listed with middle names. Since our John was never mentioned with a
middle name, those additional Johns will be investigated later, as necessary.
Since the traditional date range in our family’s oral history
for our John’s birth is 1800-1805, this researcher will begin with those John’s
from the above list that were born in that range.
If any visitors to this website have information that would
connect any of the above listed Johns to our family or eliminate any of them
from consideration, or if you have any other clues, please contact this
researcher by email, donaldacarpenter@yahoo.com. Thank you.
Theory Four, sub-theory that John #8032 might be our John
Positive indicators include:
·
According
to the CarpenterCousins.com website, John #8032 is a direct descendant of
William Carpenter (c.1605-1658/9) of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, to whom this
research is connected by DNA.
·
John
#8032 was born in 1802; my family’s oral tradition says our John was born
between 1800 and 1805 in Ohio or Indiana.
·
John
#8032 had at least three siblings who died in Indiana: Elias (1797-1860) in
Kosciusko County, Elizabeth (1804/1810-1891) in Kosciusko County, and Amy
(1814-1848) in Elkhart County.
·
Although
a weak indicator, John #8032’s family might have moved to that part of Indiana
at some point in this John’s youth. A somewhat stronger indicator is that this
John’s father John died in Goshen, Elkhart County, IN in 1855. Much stronger
evidence is that a John and Sarah are in 1830, 1840, and 1850 Census in Elkhart
County, IN with adult and children ages that match John #8032’s parents and
some of his siblings.
·
The
following entries are taken from History of Elkhart County, Indiana,
Together with Sketches of its Cities … and Biographies of Representative
Citizens published in 1881 by Chas. C. Chapman & Co. (page numbers
indicated). They provide circumstantial evidence but not proof.
o In 1830,
“The first grist-mill was commenced in this vicinity , if not in the
county, by John Carpenter, Sr., on the south bank of Rock run, near
where the present lower bridge crosses that stream ; and notwithstanding that
the burrs that were used in this mill were of native growth, they cracked corn
pretty lively, and ground wheat as fast as a boy could bolt the flour, by doing
'circular work ' at the end of a large wheel on the shaft of the bolt. This
mill was of great convenience to the whole neighborhood and county, for prior
to this time what few grists there were to be ground
had to be carried to Mr. Lacy’s mill, on the Dowagiac,
a short distance below Niles. Most of the provisions, however, of that early
day, both of flour and meat, were brought from Detroit by way of Lake Michigan
and the St. Joseph river.” (p. 371)
o “The first mill was erected on Rock Ran creek,
near its confluence with the Elkhart. This was a mill of the olden time indeed; but yet it was quite in keeping with the
enterprise of the period. John Carpenter erected this mill in 1831, but found a competition the same year a short distance
up the stream. In 1835 –36 the patron age formerly extended to these little
milling establishments was transferred to the Waterford mill, erected by Elias
Baker in 1835. His interest in this concern was purchased immediately after by
Hawks Brothers, thus the manufacturing era was entered upon in the township.”
(pp. 884-5)
o “The first settlers [of the City of Goshen] were
Wm. Bissell, … John Carpenter, … Elias Carpenter, …” (p. 885) In 1830, John Sr.
would have been 57; his son Elias, 34.
o In 1830, The Elkhart County Board of
Commissioner’s “labors in this regard resulted in the selection of the
following panel: Grand Jury: Ben
Bennett, … and Rob Hamilton. Traverse Jurors: Aaron Brown, … John Carpenter,
… Anthony Nelson.” (pp. 412-413)
o A September 5, 1831 listing by Elkhart County
Agent Oliver Crane of the lots sold in Elkhart County includes: Lot #119 Elias
Carpenter $41, #127-128 Nicholas Carpenter $55, #273 John
Carpenter $28.50, #120 Jos. Carpenter $25, #101 Elias Carpenter
$20. (pp. 417-418)
o In 1833, the presiding elders of the Methodist
Church were “met with every cooperation from such men as Latta,
… Carpenter, …and many others.” (p. 630)
o “At the close of Mr. Nicholson's remarks a
call was made for all persons present, who had voted at the first election in
the county, to rise, whereupon John W. Violett, H. Stauffer , John Jackson, William Carmein,
E. Carpenter and Mark B. Thompson , in addition to Mr. Nicholson, rose
up.” (p. 382)
o “[T. G. Harris] said that Elias Carpenter
was Assessor in 1840.” (p. 387) John #8032’s brother Elias would have been age
43 in 1840.
o “The first attempt at political party
organization was carried out in April of the same year, by the election of Elias
Carpenter, Asa Crook, Mark B. Thompson, Wm. Skinner and David Rodibaugh to places on the Democratic executive committee
of the county.” (p. 441)
o In 1843, “the County Commissioners were Horace
H. Hall, Jonathan Wyland and Joseph D. Knox. E. W. H.
Ellis was Auditor; Ira Winnegar, Assessor; Elias
Carpenter, Treasurer; W. Dodge, School Commissioner; Geo. Taylor, Recorder
…” (p. 463)
o In 1832 and 1833, Elias Carpenter was
elected as justice of the peace. (p. 517)
·
Some
of our John’s wife Fanny’s stepsiblings were reportedly born in Indiana prior
to our John and Fanny’s first child’s birth in 1830: Elizabeth in Wabash County
in 1827 and Sarah in Decatur County in 1828. Born in 1809, Fanny would have
been age 18-19 when Elizabeth and Sarah were born and likely still living in
parents’ home.
·
1840
Census seem to indicate Fanny’s father Abraham in Pleasant, Wabash County, IN.
·
Wabash
County is adjacent south of Kosciusko County and the second county south of
Elkhart County. Distance between Goshen (seat of Elkhart Co.) and Wabash (seat
of Wabash Co.) is 57 miles. Distance between Warsaw (seat of Kosciusko Co.) and
Wabash (seat of Wabash Co.) is 32 miles.
·
The
National Road (a.k.a. Cumberland Turnpike) had reached Indianapolis by 1829.
Travelers from Elkhart and Kosciusko Counties wishing to connect that that
east-west road, could have logically traveled through Wabash County.
·
If
Fanny was in Wabash County and John #8032 was in
Elkhart County in 1829, logistically it would have been possible for them to
meet.
Negative indicators include:
·
In
the CarpenterCousins.com website, there are three Johns in the family of John #8032,
including his father (John #3441) and a brother (John #8035). Neither children
died early, so it is quite possible that this family record is wrong, that the
John #8032 is not part of this family. Notes on that website indicate that the
record of Nicholas Carpenter, the father of John Sr., might have merged the
family of this Nicholas with the family of a Nicholas Carpenter whose family
name was previously Zimmerman. DNA tests could confirm that.
·
One
family tree on Ancestry.com indicated John #8032 might have been married to
someone other than Fanny Garver.
·
Logical
migration routes would have run east to west, along the Wabash, Tippecanoe,
Elkhart, and St. Joseph Rivers. Canals and railroads had not been constructed
by 1829 in that part of Indiana.
·
Elkhart
County was formed in 1829. “The great flood of immigration [into Elkhart
County] did not commence … until the years 1830-31.” (History of Elkhart
County …, p. 368)
·
The
gravestone in Goshen, Elkhart Co., IN that matches John Sr. says “Rev.
John Carpenter” which likely means that he might not be the John Sr. who owned
the grist mill in 1831. However, none of the church records documented in History
of Elkhart County … list a John Carpenter as their minister. The gravestone
can be seen at https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/15478633/john-carpenter
·
John
Sr.’s will, written on Oct 12 1834 and probated on Apr
8 1855, divides his estate equally among his wife Sarah, his sons (David B.,
Elias, and John), his daughters Catherine, Elizabeth, Amy, and Sarah), and to
heirs of his daughter Mary. Since Mary was still alive in 1834, one wonders why
Mary’s part of the estate was left to Mary’s heirs and not to Mary herself. To
his son Nicholas, John Sr. left $1 as Nicholas had already received his share
of the estate. Interestingly, four of his children died between the time the
will was written and the time it was probated. Wife Sarah reportedly died the
day after John Sr. The will and
supporting documents are on Ancenstry.com at this link.
·
In
1834, our John was supposedly still alive as his fourth child was not born
until 1836 in Highland Co., OH.
·
John
#8035, son of John Sr., is well documented as being born in 1812, having a wife
Sarah Repogle, having nine children, having died in
1854 in Goshen, Elkhart Co, IN, and buried in same cemetery in Goshen as John
Sr. (gravestone at https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188560765/john-carpenter)
Conclusions about John #8032:
The fact that only one son named John is in John Sr.'s will is a
solid indicator that John #8032 on the CarpenterCousins.com website was not a
member of the family of John Sr. (#3441). The conclusion is that we are not
connected to that family. It was a ton of fun researching this family, though.
Nonetheless, we might still be connected to John #8032. The
questions now are “Who is John #8032” and “To what family does he belong?”
Another questions to be explored is “Were there two John Seniors at the same
time in Goshen, Elkhart Co., IN at the same time, one who was a Reverend and
another who owned a grist mill?”
Theory Four, sub-theory that John #5898 might be our John
·
This
investigation was begun because John #5898 is the only John, in the list above,
who was born in MA, which might tie into the tip from John R. Carpenter (see 4th
bullet in this list).
·
John
#5898 was born c. 1798 in Fitchburg, Worchester, MA, the oldest of 10 children born
c. 1800- c. 1820 in Fitchburg of Stephen Carpenter #2500 and Lucinda Mixer who
was born c. 1777. Stephen was born c. May 1777 in Rehoboth, Bristol Co., MA and
died in Fitchburg. No other data is given for Stephen, Lucinda
or any of their 10 children. (CarpenterCousins.com)
·
Perhaps
some relative born close to the same time in MA might have traveled with John
#5898 to Ohio.
·
There was a Dexter Carpenter in Union,
Highland Co., OH by 1814. [Many thanks, John R. Carpenter, for the Sep. 10,
2020 tip.]
o A Dexter Carpenter #2068 was born in Rehoboth,
Bristol Co, MA on Jan 27, 1790 to Daniel Carpenter (1738-1823) and Olive Ide
(1459-1820). Dexter had 7 siblings and 3 stepsiblings. He married Rhoda Burbanks in c. 1913. They had six children from 1814 to
1830, all born in Union, Highland Co. OH. He died after 1850 in Union, Highland
Co., OH. (CarpenterCousins.com)
o Ancestry.com says Dexter died on Sep 16, 1840.
o Dexter #2068 was born at same place as Stephen
#2500, father of John #5898, 13 years later.
o However, none of Dexter’s #2068 known
children, siblings, uncles, cousins, or nephews were named John.
(CarpenterCousins.com)
· John #5898 had a first cousin named Dexter
Carpenter #5923. No other known siblings, cousins, or uncles were named Dexter.
(CarpenterCousins.com)
o Dexter #5923 was 4th child of David
Carpenter #5840 and Lydia Carpenter #2502. Both David and Lydia are descendants
of William of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, MA. Lydia was the younger sister of Stephen #2500.
(CarpenterCousins.com)
o David and Lydia were both born in Bristol Co.,
MA, so were in same location as Dexter #2068. They moved to Brunswick, Medina
Co., OH between 3 Nov 1829 and 15 Nov 1837, 15-17 years after Dexter #2608
moved to Ohio. (CarpenterCousins.com)
o However, Dexter #5923 was born on 13 June
1827. (CarpenterCousins.com)
o Obviously, Dexter #5923 is not Dexter #2068.
·
Conclusion: Since there is no other information currently
known about John #5898, this is a dead end (for now).
Theory Four, sub-theory that John #4086 might be our John
·
John
#4046, born in 1803/04 in New York, was son of James Carpenter #1567 (c. 1773 -
5 Oct 1821) and Elizabeth “Betsy” Hewitt (1 Mar 1798-1837). James was born in
Goshen, Orange Co, NY, died in Zoar, Delaware Co.,
OH, and buried in Galena, Delaware Co., OH. Elizabeth was born in PA,
christened in NY, and died in Delaware Co., OH. John #4046 had a brother
Benjamin Owens (?-1801) and stepbrothers Daniel H. (1812-1812) and Orr L.
(1814-?). (CarpenterCousins.com)
· James’s birthplace must be disputed as the
only communities named “Zoar” in Ohio are in
Tuscarawas and Warren Cos. (Wikipedia) Since James and Elizabeth each died in
Delaware Co. and James was buried in Delaware Co., I assume Delaware Co. is
accurate. That assumption is validated partly by several of John #4046’s
cousins are associated with Delaware Co. (CarpenterCousines.com)
· James #1567 possibly would have been in the NY
in the 1790 Census after he married Elizabeth in 1789, and in NY in the 1800 Census,
since John #4086 was born in NY in 1803/1804. In the 1810 and 1820 Census,
James might be in Ohio since son Daniel H #4087 was born and died in Galena,
Delaware Co., OH in 1812.
· The following census records were found on
MyHeritage.com and Ancestry.com.
o A James in the 1790 Census for Goshen, Orange,
NY but with 8 free whites and 3 slaves; family is too large for James #1567.
o A James in the 1800 Census for Goshen, Orange,
NY but with 7 free whites and 6 slaves; family is too large for James #1567.
o A James in the 1810 Census for Warwick,
Orange, NY but with 6 free whites; family is too large for James #1567.
o A James in the 1810 Census for Walkill, Orange, NY but with 8 free whites; family is too
large for James #1567.
o A James in the 1820 Census for Sunbury,
Delaware, OH but with 7 free whites; family is too large for James #1567.
o No other census records found for any James in
OH in 1810 or 1820.
o There is a James on the 1810 Tax Roll in
Delaware Co., OH, also a James on 1810 Tax Roll in Hamilton Co, OH
§ It does
not appear that the census records will be any help in pinpointing James #1567
in NY or OH.
· On FindAGrave.com, there are headstones in
Galena, Delaware Co., OH for
o James Carpenter (1773- 5 Oct 1821)
o James’s father Lt. Benjamin Carpenter ( 20 Jan 1750 – 27 Sep 1823). Revolutionary War vet with a
notation that he moved to Berkshire, Delaware Co., OH from PA in 1808.
o James’s mother Polly (1752 – 11 Mar 1836).
o James’s brother Benjamin (?-1849)
o James’s sister Sarah (1793-1865)
o James’s son Daniel H. (Mar 1812- Aug 1812).
o Plus, James’s daughter Mary (1819-1853) in
Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN. Married in 1839 to Joseph Yundt.